18 ( +1 | -1 ) is it ok to demand a draw?i am in a game currently where i was offered a draw. i replied that yes it seemed like a draw, but that i wanted to play it out for practice. i got the following reply "no its a draw.".
28 ( +1 | -1 ) forced draw.there is no such thing. In addition it is excellent practice to play out draws. At the master level it seems that doing so might be considered rude but there is no reason not too even at that level if you want too. message me the game? I am interested in this person's assessment.
33 ( +1 | -1 ) No, it's not okay to demand or declare a draw. Unless the position is a stalemate, there is a three-time position repetition, there is insufficient material on the board to mate, or other such things, the most a player can do is offer.
A polite "No thank you; I wish to play on" is enough of a response, and you don't owe your opponent anything further.
37 ( +1 | -1 ) For Example: certain opposite color bishop endingsat least in over-the-board serious rated games here in canada, i'm sure you can claim a draw legally in certain endgames (even when you are in time trouble!). if you can show the tournament director here that your opponent can make no progress in the game if you keep making certain moves, then it is a draw. something like that.
23 ( +1 | -1 ) in your situation... it is probably best for you to play on - no matter what your opponent says. unless maybe you trust him as a friend and a smart chess player. (but i know i'd never feel that way about a stranger ;) ).
59 ( +1 | -1 ) premium_steve...This is the "Insufficient Losing Chances" rule. I'm not familiar with Canadian chess rules, but in the US, if (and only if) you are in time trouble in a sudden death time control, you may call over a TD to claim a draw on the grounds of insufficient losing chances. You are generally not allowed to plead your case. The TD can decide that your claim is valid and award the draw, that your claim is invalid and force you to play on with a time penalty imposed for making an improper claim, or that your claim is unclear and require you both to play on while the TD observes.
10 ( +1 | -1 ) good point but doesn't really applyit is hard to justify time trouble in when you have days to move though. GRIN
9 ( +1 | -1 ) by the way the board is---;-)board #626625
2 ( +1 | -1 ) Play the game. Draw give me a break!No. Play the game!
10 ( +1 | -1 ) ah... i seethat rule is most likely to be similar here in canada. thanks for clearing it up for me, caldazar :).
47 ( +1 | -1 ) I see here a draw.Russky, everbody has the right to play on. But in my opinion, this game is a never ending story, unless some of you make a very serious mistake. I think white has a slight advantage, but not enough to checkmate black (by the time there will be not enough material). So, my advice : make this game a draw, unless you have the courage to play another 100 moves, and then to conclude that it will indeed be a draw.
50 ( +1 | -1 ) Interesting assessmentI disagree peet69. GMs frequently play out rook endings until it is a known draw. There is a big difference between thinking something is a draw and proving it. I will withhold my assessment of the situation until after the game is decided. personally Playing out a game until it is draw due to position repetition, stalemate or lack of material can be very educational. I have been told by masters that when learning these endings you should always play them out for the experience.
57 ( +1 | -1 ) I also disagree.One could say that every start of a chess game is a drawish, even position, so why play since it will likely end in a draw in 100 moves? Becasue you are hoping your opponent will make some mistake which will hand you an advantage, large or small. True, at this point in the endgame, the chances of a mistake are far slimmer, but until both players agree that there can be no progress made, they must play on! ...and you never know if and when that nasty blunder will pop up in the game and offer the opportunity for a win.
16 ( +1 | -1 ) i noticed that Rocky has 34% of his games drawn....so its my guess that he may ask for draws often and doesnt like playing endgames...its just a guess...i say...play on:)
15 ( +1 | -1 ) GentlemenPLEASE don't discuss and ongoing game public!
Best wishes Cairo
51 ( +1 | -1 ) ordinary_man, brankort and cairoI absolutely agree with ordinary_man, and in fact I said to my opponent that I am likely to make a mistake. We play chess for the fun of it, not just to win. In regards to brankort (odd name) I noticed that as well, and one of his recent draws was declared a draw at a ridiculously early point in the game, so i also agree with you. CAIRO, i very much agree with you, but no moves are being discussed, nor position. Only the question wether the game should be played out is being asked here. Fair play is key.
19 ( +1 | -1 ) The position is being discussedwhen you offer your advice on whether to accept or decline a draw. I agree with cairo, of course.
71 ( +1 | -1 ) atrifixi think my original post was misunderstood. as i said i would like to play the game out, and was asking on advice to deal with this persons attitude, not for advice on how to play the game. he has since told me he is tired of chess, but yet he starts new games. However, i fail to see how having people say wether i should play on or not is cheating. if i take some people's advice and accept a draw, i do what my opponent wants (is that cheating?). if i take other people's advice and play it out like i always have, i risk losing the game (is that cheating?). P.S. I have no intention of starting an argument, Im just asking for clarification. I would hate to be called a cheater just like anyone.
60 ( +1 | -1 ) I don't think your original post was misunderstood, but simply the direction that the thread has taken, as to whether or not to accept a draw in your given position, shouldn't be discussed.
Of course, your opponent has no right to demand that you accept a draw unless the given cases of the 50-move rule, repitition, insufficient material, stalemate, etc. arise, and you're free to play any game out as long as you wish without being seen as a bad sportsman. There is no "insufficient winning chances" on GK, so you can play any position out until you're satisfied that it's a draw. I hope this answers your question :)
33 ( +1 | -1 ) Whatever Russky! One time I was beating you in a game and you wouldn't let me go with your constant prattle about "drawing" the game. You were continually bombarding me with requests and taking forever to make your moves! Now you won't grant this poor guy the request that I had to finally concede to you just to end the annoyance?? Come on man!
18 ( +1 | -1 ) Do I know you?Dear Mr. Palm, please refrain from derogatory remarks on this forum. This is not some kind of trash talk feature on a hockey pool or something.