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tulkos 17 ( +1 | -1 )
Xtremely sharp opening! board #752839 It's a weird opening, I amnot sure it is correct--- but it it is very sharp.
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 Bc5
5. b4 d5
6. exd5
themagic_1 5 ( +1 | -1 )
5. Nf7! this would be the best reply...try out the variation!
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brunetti 13 ( +1 | -1 )
5.Nxf7 is drawish and deserves at least a ?!, since 5.Bxf7+ leads to a clear advantage for White.

5.b4 d5! 6.exd5 Nxb4 is drawish too.

Alex
themagic_1 12 ( +1 | -1 )
5. Nxf7 Qe7 6. Nxh8 I see a clear advantage for white... there are no move for black that will prevent 7 Bxf7+....
caldazar 25 ( +1 | -1 )
After 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc4 5. Bxf7+ is the better capture on f7. After 5. Nxf7:

5... Bxf2+:

6. Kxf2 Nxe4+ 7. Kg1 Qh4 15. h3 (15. g3 Qf6 is dangerous for White) Qf2+ draw (at least, Black can choose to play on and press an attack)
6. Kf1 Qe7 7. Nxh8 d5 8. exd5 Nd4 9. d6 cxd6 10. c3 Bg4 11. Qa4+ Kf8 with a draw in most continuations.

myway316 10 ( +1 | -1 )
5...Bc5 is the Traxler Counter Attack... ...AKA the Wilkes-Barre Counter Gambit.I've never seen 6.b4,so I have no idea what to call it.
tulkos 14 ( +1 | -1 )
Doesn't Bxf7 lose time? Because the bishop has to move away right after it takes the pawn? After h6, The knight has to move, and then the bishop isn't protected?
t0ned0g 18 ( +1 | -1 )
Bxf7 king moves Bd5 is better for white. Sure it loses time but black wants White to take with the knight which is dangerous after Bxf2+!
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ughaibu 3 ( +1 | -1 )
Does 4.......d5 5. exd5 Bc5 exist?
atrifix 141 ( +1 | -1 )
Wilkes-Barre/Traxler lines Not sure if there's been any new theory, but I think Black can do better than caldazar's suggestions. The first line appears to be mixed up with a 6. Kf1 line, since it jumps from move 7 to move 15 :) 8. g3 is universally regarded as better than 8. h3, after which Black's attack is overwhelming, and 8... Nxg3 is a better response than 8... Qf6. However, Black still gets a draw, at the least; Nunn gives 8... Nxg3 9. Nxh8 d5 10. Qf3 Nf5!-/+.

The line which caldazar is probably referring to is 6. Kf1 Qe7 7. Nxh8 d5 8. exd5 Nd4 9. d6 cxd6 10. c3 Bg4 11. Qa4+ Kf8 (not sure how this is assessed as a draw, most sources give it as a Black win) 12. cxd4 exd4 13. Kxf2 Ne4+ 14. Kg1 Qh4 15. h3 (when 15. g3 Qf6 leads to mate), and Black gets perpetual check after 15... Qf2+ 16. Kh2 Qg3+ 17. Kg1 Qf2+ etc. But better is 17... Bf3 18. Bf1 Ng5!!, when Black is winning (Engelhardt-Eckmann, 1984, which continued 19. Qd7 Bxg2 20. Qf5+ Kg8 21. Bxg2 Re8 0-1. Amazingly enough, Andre-Schneider, 1986 was drawn after the inferior 20... Ke7?? 21. Bxg2 Rf8 22. Qxf8+ Kxf8 23. Kf1 Qd3+?? 24. Kf2 1/2-1/2, when White avoids perpetual check and has a winning material advantage, and Andre-Knorr, 1986 was drawn after 16... Qg3+).

All of this is generally moot since the 5. Bxf7+ lines leave White with a clear edge, e.g. 5... Ke7 6. Bb3 (6. Bd5 is less clear) Rf8 7. 0-0 d6 8. Nc3 Qe8 9. Nd5+ Kd8 10. c3 h6 11. d4 exd4 12. Nxf6 Rxf6 13. e5 when White has a clear, if slight advantage.
loreta 10 ( +1 | -1 )
Boys!
You are discussing game what is in progress!
And in the position just in discussion point!
IT'S UNETHICAL!
brainattack 9 ( +1 | -1 )
atrifix interesting you say black has the edge in the 5. Nxf7 lines. MCO-14 has them as drawish. Is it wrong here?
tulkos 4 ( +1 | -1 )
loreta! note that we are not discussing the b4 lines---
brunetti 39 ( +1 | -1 )
Dear loreta opening discussion is not unethical, because opening theory is general, and not related to a specific game. And it's available in many written sources elsewhere, anyway. Consider that in the world, right now thousands and thousands of correspondence games are played, so , from your standpoint, any discussion like "Do you prefer King's pawn opening or Queen's pawn?" would be unethical :)

Alex
t0ned0g 1 ( +1 | -1 )
nicely said! Thanks!
atrifix 39 ( +1 | -1 )
I'm not sure who has the last word in the 5. Nxf7 lines, but personally I've had very good experience with them. IMO the move is extremely dubious, since 5. Bxf7+ leads to a much easier position.

And, yes, it's just opening theory. You can't really abandon opening theory without abandoning chess discussion altogether. And the comments were not even related to the line played in the game :)
themagic_1 7 ( +1 | -1 )
atrifix,

this is exactly why we have so much fun discussing them....
tulkos 7 ( +1 | -1 )
poor little me--- braving all this theory, and not even playing one of the cited lines!
loreta 3 ( +1 | -1 )
Sorry Ok, Ok...
I take my words back...